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Jan 16 2008, 03:57 PM
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Fear The Dark. Group: Members Posts: 742 Joined: 5-January 08 Member No.: 738 Blaze it. |
This is a possible team I may use for diamond:
Charizard @ Salac berry 6 HP / 252 Atk / 250 Spd - Fire punch - Belly drum - Dragon claw - Substitute _______________________________________________________________ Weavile @ Expert belt 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd - Aerial ace - Brick break - Ice punch - Pursuit Ice Punch is STAB. Brick Break gets the Steels that are resistant to both Ice and Dark attacks. Pursuit kills the Psychics and Ghosts who think they can escape from Weavile. Aerial ace gets those fighting types weavile is scared to death of. ________________________________________________________________________________ Alakazam @ Choice specs 252 Satk / 252 Spd - Focus Blast - Energy Ball - Psychic - Shadow Ball OR Gengar @ Choice Specs -252 SPD / 252 SP ATK / 6 HP -Focus Blast -Shadow ball -Psychic -Thunderbolt ____________________________________________________________________ Blissey @ Leftovers 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk - Calm mind - Ice Beam - Softboiled - Aromatherapy Ice beam scares dragons. softboiled is a standard healing move. Aromatherapy gets rid of annoying status effects. _________________________________________________________________ Slowbro @ Leftovers - Calm mind - Psychic - Surf - Slack off _____________________________________________________________________________ Skarmory @ Leftovers 252 Def / 252 Atk / 4 HP Drilll peck Whirlwind Stealth rock Roost -------------------- |
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Jan 17 2008, 06:31 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 15-January 08 Member No.: 869 Active Squad |
My only question is this: Why exactly did you outfit Skarmory with Spikes, and of all things, Roar?
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Jan 17 2008, 08:41 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
Take out Aerial Ace for Drill Peck, Steel Wing for Roost or Stealth Rock. Stealth Rock > Spikes if you want to go that way, but Whirlwind > Roar just in case you run into a soundproofer.
Take out Seismic Toss and put in Calm Mind to help with special tanking :S And try Fire Punch > Flare Blitz on Charizard with Belly Drum and Substitute. Dragon claw stays for coverage. Item: Salac Berry. -------------------- |
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Jan 18 2008, 09:55 AM
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Fear The Dark. Group: Members Posts: 742 Joined: 5-January 08 Member No.: 738 Blaze it. |
Ok, thanks I'll try that.
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Jan 18 2008, 10:31 AM
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Look closer. Group: +Donors Posts: 2 295 Joined: 9-July 07 Member No.: 72 Active Squad |
I'm iffy on Pursuit because although Psys and Ghosts will get hit for some nice damage, I feel it's a bit useless overall. You also have no special sweepers. You could do with Alakazam because most of your team has fighter weakness.
Alakazam@Life Orb [[Timid/Modest]] Synchronize 252 SPD/252 SP. ATK/6 HP Psychic Energy Ball/Shock Wave/Psybeam/Future Sight/Shadow Ball Thunder Wave Miracle Eye Miracle Eye helps against Weavile and TTar so you can attack with Psychic and/or Future Sight/Psybeam. TWave gives a nice boost due to paralyze. EBall is for TTar/Sharpedo. -------------------- [align=center]I am the earth-mother, and you are all flops.
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Jan 18 2008, 10:35 AM
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Fear The Dark. Group: Members Posts: 742 Joined: 5-January 08 Member No.: 738 Blaze it. |
Thanks, I was wondering what pokemon I should use as my special sweeper.
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Jan 18 2008, 11:21 AM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
QUOTE I'm iffy on Pursuit because although Psys and Ghosts will get hit for some nice damage, I feel it's a bit useless overall. You also have no special sweepers. You could do with Alakazam because most of your team has fighter weakness. No, keep Pursuit because it strikes things that'll most likely switch out on it. Which is basically, Psych and Ghosts... namely Azelf. It's also meant to be a revenge killer, seeing as it's fast and not that strong so things are more than likely going to switch out on it.Btw, Revenge Killer = comes in after a Pokemon dies and takes off the remaining HP. I'd recommend losing a move for Aerial Ace on second though (Night Slash maybe?) seeing as it covers Infernape and other frail fighters quite well. As for Alakazam Alakazam@Choice Specs Timid nature, 252 Satk/252 Spd - Focus Blast - Energy Ball - Psychic - Shadow Ball should fit your needs -------------------- |
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Jan 18 2008, 12:26 PM
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Pokémon Trainer Group: Validating Posts: 8 Joined: 5-January 08 From: If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you. Member No.: 747 Active Squad |
You need a Water type as well, so I suggest for your Physical Wall;
Slowbro @ Leftovers Own Tempo Bold - 252 Defence, ~212 HP, ~44 SpAttack - Psychic - Surf - Slack Off - Thunder Wave A nice physical wall that can be used as a Special Sweeper if necessary. Basic idea is to Paralyse with T-wave, then hit with STABed Surf or Psychic. Slack Off provides a quick healing move. As far as EVs go, Max Defence and Bold is a must. For HP, you want max-payoff from Leftovers, I believe the number to shoot for is 384, so use EVs accordingly. Whatever is left goes to SpAttack. -------------------- <Draggy> so i was reading this guide for FFIII
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Jan 18 2008, 12:33 PM
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Fear The Dark. Group: Members Posts: 742 Joined: 5-January 08 Member No.: 738 Blaze it. |
Thanks guys this has really helped a lot.
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Jan 19 2008, 01:32 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
Calm Mind > TWave imo
Need IVs for EVs, but 252 HP is more of a must than 252 Defense. -------------------- |
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Jan 19 2008, 02:45 PM
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Fear The Dark. Group: Members Posts: 742 Joined: 5-January 08 Member No.: 738 Blaze it. |
So I make defence 212 and HP 252 or both 252 and lower SAtk.
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Jan 19 2008, 08:28 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
I need your IVs before I can produce an accurate EV spread. HP 252 is a must, though.
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Jan 20 2008, 12:43 AM
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Resident Sceptile Fanatic Group: Members Posts: 564 Joined: 10-October 07 From: Texas Member No.: 360 Active Squad |
If you want a water type go with Swampert, it has earhquake to deal with normal types, and as long as it has good speed EV's and IV's you can handle a grass type with a quick ice beam (for a last resort).
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Jan 20 2008, 03:47 AM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
what what what
earthquake dealing with normal types how...? and swampert is NOT surviving a grass attack without COMPLETELY raping his EVs -------------------- |
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Jan 20 2008, 12:50 PM
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Fear The Dark. Group: Members Posts: 742 Joined: 5-January 08 Member No.: 738 Blaze it. |
I need your IVs before I can produce an accurate EV spread. HP 252 is a must, though. I havn't got the pokemon yet I'm planning how to train them first. -------------------- |
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Jan 20 2008, 01:18 PM
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i need something to put here Group: Advisors Posts: 3 902 Joined: 2-July 07 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Member No.: 34 Active Squad |
Then get the Pokemon in your possession before I can give out EVs for your IVs. It's honestly the most efficient way to get an EV spread for a tank.
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Jan 21 2008, 12:19 PM
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Stalking like a Weeping Angel Group: Members Posts: 170 Joined: 18-January 08 Member No.: 889 COOKIE Team |
This is a possible team I may use for diamond:
Charizard @ Leftovers Choice Band/Life Orb Adamant/Joly 6 HP / 252 Atk / 250 Spd 252 spd - Flare blitz/Fire Fang - Earthquake - Dragon claw - Return /Rock Slide Earthquake gets any electric types and fellow fire types. Flare blitz is STAB. Leftovers is to get rid of some of the recoil taken by flare blitz. Dragon claw is for dragons. Return is good with max happiness. Weavile @ Expert belt/Life Orb Adamant/Jolly 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd - Night slash - Brick break -Ice punch - Pursuit Ice Punch and Night Slash are STAB. Brick Break gets the Steels that are resistant to both Ice and Dark attacks. Pursuit kills the Psychics and Ghosts who think they can escape from Weavile. Special sweeperGengar @ Choice Scarf/Specs Suggestions please! 252 SPD 252 SP ATK 6 HP Modest/Timid Shadow Ball Focus Blast Psychic T-Bolt Blissey @ Leftovers 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Bold - Seismic Toss - Ice Beam - Softboiled - Aromatherapy Seismic toss is there becuase blissey doesn't have the attack stat to use anything else. Ice beam scares dragons. softboiled is a standard healing move. Aromatherapy gets rid of annoying status effects. Physical wall @ something Suggestions please! Skarmory @ Sugestion for a good item please! Leftovers 252 Def / 252 Atk / 4 HP Are you looking for a physical sweeper? Skarm is designed to be a physical wall, so here's a Skarm wall set, Skarmory@Leftovers 252 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 4 Spe Impish Brave Bird/Drill Peck SR/Spikes Roost Roar/Whirlwind If you want a physical sweeper, give me a shout -------------------- |
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Jan 21 2008, 02:51 PM
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Geek, Mensan, Gifted... and Proud! Ö Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: 12-January 08 From: Barcelona Member No.: 839 Active Squad |
I don't agree with charizard... Charizard hasn't got more attack than special attack. Make a modest Charizard, there you've got the special sweeper, with Xpert bell, Flamethrower, "onda certera" in Spanish (don't know the English name, sorry ).
And in place of ur Charizard, put a gyarados or Feraligatr. I prefer Gyarados, an Adamant Gyarados: 252 ev's attack; 150: Speed; the rest u can put it in the defenses or HP. Moves: Eartquake (electrical), Ice Fang (flying dragons), Waterfall (STAB and flinching) and Dragon Dance (+ Speed, + Attack will make u have the first turn, a stronger attack, and waterfall may kill or make your foe flinch xD) I would give him or focus sash or King's Rock. Here u choose. About Blissey, I think Seismic Toss is Okay... I'd put Thunder wave, Seismic Toss, Softboiled, Counter. and I'd give it a Focus Sash. Fight move vs Blissey + Focus sash + counter... u know... And, about nature and Ev's... I suppose I'd give Blissey 252 in HP and I'd do it with a nature that pulls up its defense, so I'd give Blissey 200 ev's in defense and 52 in sp.defense. Well, I have never had a Blissey but I suppose this could be right. And ur Skarmory: I suppose I would put to a skarmory, although I don't like them, this moves: Spikes, Roost, Drill peck and Roar. and EV's... Defense: 252; sp. defense: 150 (electrical...); the rest: attack. About weavile... I've got a weavile, and it has won some battles, just him, alone: Nature: Adamant; EV's 252 in attack and speed. Item: Focus Sash. Moves: Night slash, Ice punch, Ice shard (for faster pokemon than weavile. Usually a faster pokemon than weavile shoul have a low defense...) and Brick Break. If u don't like what I told u before (Charizard as a Special Sweeper) u can put Gengar, Alakazam or Porygon-z I prefer Gengar: Gengar: Modest or timid. Ev's: 252 in Sp.atack and speed. moves: destiny bond (+Focus Sash+great speed), Shadow ball, Thunder, Hipnosis. U can make a fast Gengar, because having the first turn is always good, and if u are gonna do a destiny bonder gengar, it would be more useful a high speed than a high sp.attack. If u think is better a high sp.attack, I would use destiny bond but for a very clear case. I mean, if u see your foe is gonna kill ur gengar, do destiny bond. I say this because if u raise Gengar's special attack, it would be better giving him a life orb. This are my suggestions. Sorry for my bad english, since I'm Spanish... -------------------- |
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Jan 21 2008, 03:22 PM
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Fear The Dark. Group: Members Posts: 742 Joined: 5-January 08 Member No.: 738 Blaze it. |
This is a possible team I may use for diamond: Charizard @ Leftovers Choice Band/Life Orb Adamant/Joly 6 HP / 252 Atk / 250 Spd 252 spd - Flare blitz/Fire Fang - Earthquake - Dragon claw - Return /Rock Slide Earthquake gets any electric types and fellow fire types. Flare blitz is STAB. Leftovers is to get rid of some of the recoil taken by flare blitz. Dragon claw is for dragons. Return is good with max happiness. Weavile @ Expert belt/Life Orb Adamant/Jolly 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd - Night slash - Brick break -Ice punch - Pursuit Ice Punch and Night Slash are STAB. Brick Break gets the Steels that are resistant to both Ice and Dark attacks. Pursuit kills the Psychics and Ghosts who think they can escape from Weavile. Special sweeperGengar @ Choice Scarf/Specs Suggestions please! 252 SPD 252 SP ATK 6 HP Modest/Timid Shadow Ball Focus Blast Psychic T-Bolt Blissey @ Leftovers 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk Bold - Seismic Toss - Ice Beam - Softboiled - Aromatherapy Seismic toss is there becuase blissey doesn't have the attack stat to use anything else. Ice beam scares dragons. softboiled is a standard healing move. Aromatherapy gets rid of annoying status effects. Physical wall @ something Suggestions please! Skarmory @ Sugestion for a good item please! Leftovers 252 Def / 252 Atk / 4 HP Are you looking for a physical sweeper? Skarm is designed to be a physical wall, so here's a Skarm wall set, Skarmory@Leftovers 252 HP / 96 Atk / 156 Def / 4 Spe Impish Brave Bird/Drill Peck SR/Spikes Roost Roar/Whirlwind If you want a physical sweeper, give me a shout Sorry my first post is the team I used before I got the advice from other people so I've changed it. But I quite like that gengar I may use that instead of alakazam. -------------------- |
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